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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby CdB » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:36 pm

JeniB wrote:My nephew, who was slightly on the spectrum and recovered, just recently had a horrible outbreak of psoriasis on his entire body. The dermatologist was the one who discovered the strep and thought of it (said it was a long untreated strep infection causing the psoriasis). The regular pediatrician thought it was maybe chickenpox. The dermatologist didn't even test, put him on a month of antibiotics. He knew it was strep causing the psoriasis. They treated him because my brother wasn't going in trying to blame odd behavior on strep, the horrible rash on his entire body is why the doctors treated it. We are sol because we try to help the autistic behavior due to strep. Dumb doctors.


Similar story happened to me but a different outcome. Few years ago my kid was treated for strep with antibiotics, no strep culture or anything dr just looked at the throat and said it was strep. Ever since then during fall/winter months she would get sore throat and Pandas/Pans symptoms yet her throat was always negative to strep. Took her to ENT specialist who looked her throat and said no strep, it's probably acid reflux and wanted to put my kid on acid reflux meds, which I refused. Few months ago, she had a rash all over her body which emergency Dr thought it was a allergic reaction and treated her with stereoids. Took her to allergist who said that was not allergies but some immune response to something as rash didn't go away with anti histamines but with stereoids. Eventually found a specialist who took blood work and her strep antibodies titers were out of whack and now we need to do a long course of antibiotics which scares me to death as lately strep is getting more and more resistant to antibiotics (and it seems to comeback after few months)

How did you nephew do after being treated and do you know which antibiotics did he had. We were recomended to do a course of Bioxin due to coinfections.

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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby FatherOf2 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:57 pm

About two months ago I went through sigmoidoscopy (a short version of colonoscopy) because I had been having loose stools for nearly a year, doctors saw some red spots in the colon, took biopsy, it turned out H. Pylori. I took two antibiotics for 2 weeks according to Dr orders. My stool became formed, and I sleep much better. For many many years I had been a very sensitive sleeper, waking up almost every hour at night, turning around etc. Now I go to bed and wake up in the morning. So, I am very convinced on my personal example that the GI health affects your well-being and could be a reason for many autistic symptoms like trouble with sleeping. Unfortunately, H. Pylori is hard to detect through blood and stool tests (I had so many of them showing everything is OK until I did sigmoidoscopy with biopsy).

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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby CdB » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:34 pm

Dr Blasser believes that H. pylori is good for you especially for kids as it protects them against asthma. He believes that H. pylori becomes a problem after the age 40 and should be eradicated then.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/healt ... .html?_r=0

Among those sounding the alarm is Dr. Martin Blaser, a professor of microbiology at New York University Langone Medical Center. In a commentary published in August in the journal Nature, he asserted that antibiotics are permanently altering microbial flora of the human body, also known as the microbiome or microbiota, with serious health consequences.

The human gut in particular is home to billions of bacteria, but little is known about this hidden ecosystem. Take Helicobacter pylori, a bacterium associated with an increased risk of ulcers and gastric cancer. Many doctors are quick to prescribe antibiotics to kill it even when the patient has no symptoms.

But in 1998, in a paper published in the British Medical Journal, Dr. Blaser was more circumspect, arguing that H. pylori might not be such a bad actor after all. “We’re talking about a bug that’s been in the human gut for at least 58,000 years,” Dr. Blaser said in an interview. “There’s probably a reason for that.”

His lab has since produced a stream of findings supporting his suspicion. Dr. Blaser and his colleagues discovered, for instance, that the stomach behaves differently after a course of antibiotics eradicates resident H. pylori.

After a meal, levels of ghrelin, a hunger hormone secreted in the stomach, are supposed to fall. But in subjects without H. pylori, the amount of ghrelin in the bloodstream held steady, in essence telling the brain to keep eating.

Moreover, mice in Dr. Blaser’s lab fed antibiotics in dosages similar to those given to children to treat ear and throat infections — which is enough to kill H. pylori in many patients — had marked increases in body fat even though their diets remained the same. (Indeed, farmers have long given antibiotics to livestock to promote weight gain without increasing caloric intake.)

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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby CdB » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:17 pm

FatherOf2 wrote:About two months ago I went through sigmoidoscopy (a short version of colonoscopy) because I had been having loose stools for nearly a year, doctors saw some red spots in the colon, took biopsy, it turned out H. Pylori. I took two antibiotics for 2 weeks according to Dr orders. My stool became formed, and I sleep much better. For many many years I had been a very sensitive sleeper, waking up almost every hour at night, turning around etc. Now I go to bed and wake up in the morning. So, I am very convinced on my personal example that the GI health affects your well-being and could be a reason for many autistic symptoms like trouble with sleeping. Unfortunately, H. Pylori is hard to detect through blood and stool tests (I had so many of them showing everything is OK until I did sigmoidoscopy with biopsy).


Fo2,

Curious as to which two abx did you took?

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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby alexsdad » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:17 pm

oleander wrote:Has anyone noticed that when your child is on antibiotics for whatever reason their Autistic symptoms improve? Every time my son is on Antibiotics he is a completely different kid in a good way. Sleeps through the night, will eat anything, calmer... What does this mean? Do antibiotics kill yeast or is there a bacterial thing going on? Thanks.


oleander - Which abx was your son on? Minocycline? I'm asking because Minocycline inhibits microglial activation and that might have helped your son.

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Re: antibiotics improve symptoms...

Postby CdB » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:43 am

Bump for Jillh


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