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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:05 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:04 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:44 am
by auract
Creatineman, COP does not end up as creatine.

"Even after COP loses the phosphorus group, it metabolizes into creatinol and not creatine"

https://examine.com/supplements/creatinol-o-phosphate/

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:18 pm
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:01 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:19 pm
by auract
Creatineman, since you are self diagnosed have you looked into getting a measurement of your urine creatine to creatinine ratio. That seems to be a common panel for diagnosing creatine transporter deficiency and it doesn't have the same wait time as genetic testing or even MRS.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:02 pm
by Creatineman
I am sending a sample overseas for slc6a8 testing. It will take 5 weeks or so for the results.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:17 pm
by atillathedan
Hi Creatineman-

from your post do I understand correctly that you are taking the creatine phosphates that you mentioned?

I would Loe to find something that will help my son but am obviously weary of giving him anything without a doctors sign off.

Also if you don't mind me asking, you mentioned that you are self diagnosed CTD - have you considered getting a metabolic screening to confirm? That is how our son was diagnosed.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:08 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:51 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:45 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:50 am
by Creatineman
I found an even better form of creatine glycerol- tri creatine glycerol which is 81% creatine by weight

https://www.google.com/patents/US20110172306

I'm in the process of getting some from manufacturers in China.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:53 pm
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:44 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:41 am
by Creatineman
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Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:02 am
by auract
Thanks for posting the updates! It's very useful to see your experimentation.

There was a new parent that tried to tackle the solubility of all these creatine compounds


https://www.google.com/patents/US9642825

Did you end up doing the blood test or genetic test?

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:04 am
by auract
@atillathedan I tried sending a direct message on this board. It seems we are in similar boats w our kiddos so it would be great to compare notes.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:31 am
by Creatineman
Creatine phosphate didn't work.

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:40 pm
by auract
Sharing the studies on cyclocreatine would indeed be super helpful. Thanks!

Re: Creatine transporter deficiency

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:39 am
by Creatineman
creatine analogs

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e62ezt4eqe8g ... TLaZa?dl=0

and some other studies

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a33scukzzfze ... Cw7_a?dl=0

And I have a folder with stacks on GAMT, AGAT, and the CTD but it is on my hard drive which I don't have with me atm. I can upload them when I get it.