srinath wrote: littlebopeep wrote:
LittleManzParents wrote:if gut issues in ASD kids would be prescribed different treatments than the same gut issues NT kids - or if there is any medical evidence/reason that they should be. This is of particular interest because it appears that although both NT and ASD kids can have gut issues, the issues that ASD kids have are often unique (due in part to lack of evidence to the contrary) and perhaps have different implications.
Yes, this is what I'm curious about. Why would an ASD kid's GI problems be treated any differently than an NT's? Assuming you have left the practise of a dismissive doctor and have found a doc who is more educated in pediatric GI problems?
I am also curious why Bill often says that it's important for researchers to establish a connection between autism and GI problems.
An NT kid will say what happens after eating food that he is allergic to, and they also will throw up or have stomach pains or other visible symptoms.
ASD kids stim, zone out, scream non specifically and act up and usually it goes un detected. Which is why they say to try a GFCF or scd before concluding if that is what the kids are allergic to.
This may take a while:
Sorry took a few to answer this. I had to pick Liv up at school. She was crying uncontrollably. Luckily her school is in tune with her issue and her subtle way of telling them what is wrong (not so subtle sometimes, she grabs their hands and put it on her belly this time!). Thank goodness they are so intuned...
Isn't it ironic, don'tja think (to coin a musical phrase)? She doesn't get to the point that she has to leave school more than once a month usually. Srinath, you hit it on the head about concentration, how if they are in distress, they cannot focus (can anyone?). How many kids potentially have physiological issues (pain) that cause them not to progress?
I still don't like the turn that the conversation's going, that it MIGHT be every type of kid that can have GI issues (true, but the higher prevelence in ASD kids is just a theory???), that biomed MIGHT be the cause of their GI issues (some medication, yes but generally no). It reminds me of the 1 in 164 argument; better diagnosis, broadened criterea. PEOPLE, THERE ARE 1 IN 164 KIDS AFFECTED HERE! Why I don't give a darn Scarlett, 1 in 164 remains. Same thing with the gut...
Goes back to the rants I had a few weeks ago about changing diagnostic criterea. I got mired in a debate about the criterea of the diagnosis, what I MEANT to argue is that ONCE a diagnosis is reached, how about giving doctors and parents a roadmap of the possible issues that may arise from the autism? Gut issues, food allergies (GFCF), eating non food items (whats that called again?) self injurous behaviors (feel free to add to the list). I had to learn about all this stuff on the 'virtual street'. I have to educate my doctors about the issues that autistic kids face. I have a modern diagnostic criterea and a "leech-based" treatment criterea.
This is one reason I find the 'acceptance' crowd, not wrong but possibly misguiding people. If we accept, will that send the wrong message to parents, whose kids, like mine, are in distress because something IS wrong? There are obvious limitations that are kids MAY have as they get older, I don't want their lack of communication or autistic behaviors masking their need for medical attention.
Once we get past that, let's find out first 'if' there is a higher prevelence of gut issues in the ASD community and what causes it if that's true...